American 767-300

Michael Magdaleno · 04-10-2002, 01:52 PM

plane parked,brakes failed,rolled thru fence at LAX..

04-10-2002, 02:51 PM

I guess I gotta watch the 11am news then

TL925 · 04-10-2002, 03:45 PM

I was watching this on MSNBC, damage doesn't look too bad, and no one got hurt which is most important. It's a shame American has gotten so much bad publicity lately even though the majority has not been their fault. However, I'm sure they'll weather the storm and stay strong.

DeltaFlot · 04-10-2002, 03:52 PM

Ground transport: Jet rolls onto street
LAX spokesman calls it some sort of mechanical error
April 10, 2002 Posted: 1:55 PM EDT (1755 GMT)

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- An empty American Airlines jet rolled through a fence onto a nearby street at Los Angeles International airport Wednesday morning.

There were no injuries.

The Boeing 767 hit some power lines and its nose extended about 15 feet onto World Way West, a four-lane street used by airport employees, authorities said.

The plane was parked outside a maintenance hanger when it rolled away, according to a statement from American Airlines.

Gaby Pacheco, an airport spokesman, said the mishap appeared to stem from some sort of mechanical error. Airport police were investigating the incident.

The plane rolled slowly enough that traffic on the street was not affected, Pacheco said.

ModelSaurus · 04-10-2002, 05:30 PM

tdh8192 · 04-10-2002, 08:48 PM

Hey - what does this knob do?

Ozz · 04-10-2002, 09:11 PM

Whoever was resposible for chocking this puppy is in a world of guano!

b737gearboy · 04-10-2002, 09:48 PM

I don't now anything about the systems on the 767 but sounds like someone set the parking brake and then the airplane sat all night. After sitting all night the hydraulic pressure bleeds off and then you have a runaway 767. DOH! Always always always use chocks!

Travis Campbell · 04-11-2002, 12:26 AM

, Media is fun. The news here in Detroit claimed that the empty airplane rolled off the runway and only minor damage was done to the Boeing 767 Cargo Jet. Wow, I didn't know American parked their apparently lesser known 767-300F's on active runways...

Scott · 04-11-2002, 12:53 AM

Isn't it laughable that people (and much media) refer to the entire airport as the "runway"? Such as: we sat on the runway for 4 hours waiting for the weather to clear, it took an hour of sitting on the runway to get to the gate...... Well, you get the point!

UALsprtofSEA2 · 04-11-2002, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott
Isn't it laughable that people (and much media) refer to the entire airport as the "runway"? Such as: we sat on the runway for 4 hours waiting for the weather to clear, it took an hour of sitting on the runway to get to the gate...... Well, you get the point!

In Chicago they said the same thing. That a American aircraft left a runway and ended up on a street. When they went to the story later in the news, they said it was at hanger and that the aircraft rolled after the "things that are placed near the wheels" to stop the aircraft from rolling were not used properly.

I had to laugh when she said "the things".

The media's definition of a chock.......the things used to prevent a aircraft from rolling off a runway

Scott

smoothjazz · 04-11-2002, 10:10 AM

Whoa...

tdh8192 · 04-11-2002, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by b737gearboy
I don't now anything about the systems on the 767 but sounds like someone set the parking brake and then the airplane sat all night. After sitting all night the hydraulic pressure bleeds off and then you have a runaway 767. DOH! Always always always use chocks!

Interesting... back in my trucking days we had something called 'spring brakes' on our rigs. When the air pressure that held the parking brakes 'on' bled off, the spring (boing, not the season) brakes came on and held the shoes/pads against the drum/disc. So then 767s don't have anything like his?

Pete Hamel · 04-11-2002, 09:43 PM

Must have left it in neutral.

Pete

Piarco · 04-12-2002, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tdh8192
Interesting... back in my trucking days we had something called 'spring brakes' on our rigs......

You were a trucker, Tom??

tdh8192 · 04-12-2002, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Piarco
You were a trucker, Tom??

Sure was - see my post on JetCollector.com.

Stanman · 04-13-2002, 01:23 PM

Another possibility is that overnight because of the lowering in temperature the pressure in the system decreased and unlocked the brakes.

Having an automatic breaking system like they have in trucks would be a bad idea. Imagine if in mid-air the plane suffers a hydraulic pressure loss, the plane goes to the nearest airfield to land. The tires would automatically be locked and when the plane touched ground there would be much screeching of metal and gnashing of teeth. Not to mention a lot of rubber left on the runway. That is why the brakes on an airplane do not automatically go to a locked down mode like a truck.

Key point here is to always chock a parked plane first.

04-10-2002, 01:52 PM	#1
Michael Magdaleno Senior Collector Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Yuma Az. USA Age: 46 Posts: 326	American 767-300 plane parked,brakes failed,rolled thru fence at LAX..

04-10-2002, 03:52 PM	#4
DeltaFlot The Patriot Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Laurel, MD Age: 36 Posts: 3,228	Ground transport: Jet rolls onto street LAX spokesman calls it some sort of mechanical error April 10, 2002 Posted: 1:55 PM EDT (1755 GMT) LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- An empty American Airlines jet rolled through a fence onto a nearby street at Los Angeles International airport Wednesday morning. There were no injuries. The Boeing 767 hit some power lines and its nose extended about 15 feet onto World Way West, a four-lane street used by airport employees, authorities said. The plane was parked outside a maintenance hanger when it rolled away, according to a statement from American Airlines. Gaby Pacheco, an airport spokesman, said the mishap appeared to stem from some sort of mechanical error. Airport police were investigating the incident. The plane rolled slowly enough that traffic on the street was not affected, Pacheco said. __________________ Febuary 15, 1898 December 7, 1941 June 8, 1967 September 11, 2001 Never Forget, Never Forgive If you kick the Tiger in the arse, you better be able to deal with the Tiger's teeth.

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04-10-2002, 02:51 PM	#2
JohnnyB Guest Posts: n/a	I guess I gotta watch the 11am news then

04-10-2002, 03:45 PM	#3
TL925 Master Collector Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: London Age: 26 Posts: 529	I was watching this on MSNBC, damage doesn't look too bad, and no one got hurt which is most important. It's a shame American has gotten so much bad publicity lately even though the majority has not been their fault. However, I'm sure they'll weather the storm and stay strong.

04-10-2002, 09:48 PM	#8
b737gearboy Senior Collector Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: KMHT Age: 40 Posts: 248	I don't now anything about the systems on the 767 but sounds like someone set the parking brake and then the airplane sat all night. After sitting all night the hydraulic pressure bleeds off and then you have a runaway 767. DOH! Always always always use chocks! __________________ GO BUCKEYES!!!! NATIONAL CHAMPS!! O----H----I----O

04-11-2002, 12:26 AM	#9
Travis Campbell Insane Collector Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Detroit, Michigan (Roughly) Age: 27 Posts: 1,067	, Media is fun. The news here in Detroit claimed that the empty airplane rolled off the runway and only minor damage was done to the Boeing 767 Cargo Jet. Wow, I didn't know American parked their apparently lesser known 767-300F's on active runways...

04-11-2002, 12:53 AM	#10
Scott Insane Collector Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Escondido, Ca. USA Age: 50 Posts: 2,763	Isn't it laughable that people (and much media) refer to the entire airport as the "runway"? Such as: we sat on the runway for 4 hours waiting for the weather to clear, it took an hour of sitting on the runway to get to the gate...... Well, you get the point! __________________ Fly the Friendly Skies of United uniTED takes wing Feb 12, 2004

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04-11-2002, 09:43 PM	#14
Pete Hamel Master Collector Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida USA Posts: 908	Must have left it in neutral. Pete

04-13-2002, 01:23 PM	#17
Stanman Senior Collector Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Waxahachie, Texas, USA Posts: 426	Another possibility is that overnight because of the lowering in temperature the pressure in the system decreased and unlocked the brakes. Having an automatic breaking system like they have in trucks would be a bad idea. Imagine if in mid-air the plane suffers a hydraulic pressure loss, the plane goes to the nearest airfield to land. The tires would automatically be locked and when the plane touched ground there would be much screeching of metal and gnashing of teeth. Not to mention a lot of rubber left on the runway. That is why the brakes on an airplane do not automatically go to a locked down mode like a truck. Key point here is to always chock a parked plane first.

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