American Eagle flight intercepted by F-15s

ptolbert · 12-30-2001, 08:56 PM

Hey guys I was one of the DFW passengers onboard flight 3904

Flight 3904 intercepted F-15 fighters shortly after take-off from waco regional airport (KACT). The aircraft went too far west after take off. 2 fighters intercepted the Saab 340B aircraft.

The pilot made a sharp bank to avoid collision.

Sentinel Chicken · 12-30-2001, 11:50 PM

How far west was the pilot planning to go? Waco Regional is 13 nautical miles to the east of the edge of prohibited airspace P-49 (the President's ranch- the prohibited area is approx 6 nm diameter). Unless perhaps you were taking off southbound over Lake Waco and turning to the west.....

Scott · 12-31-2001, 01:19 AM

Sharp bank? That might be interpreted as a potentially hostile act. Proper response is to illuminate all outside lights, waggle wings gently, and lower landing gear when approaching airport. The crew should have also been monitoring atc freq 121.5 for intercept data.
Patrick, are you pulling our legs????

ptolbert · 12-31-2001, 08:58 PM

The bush no fly zone is 10 miles in diamiter.
We took off and headed west, the pilot preformed the anticollision
procedures as the fighter pilots set up the intercept wrong.

Sentinel Chicken · 12-31-2001, 10:29 PM

No, it's only 6 nautical miles in diameter, I'm looking at the San Antonio sectional as we speak. I'm guessing you took off from Rwy 19 and turned to the west with intent to turn north if you're headed to DFW, right? You got lots of room between P-49 and ACT from what I can see on the sectional.

ptolbert · 01-01-2002, 12:10 AM

chicken- I've got the skinny right from the FAA and Secret Service
its 10 miles when the Shrub is in town and 6 other times.

b737gearboy · 01-01-2002, 07:50 AM

Is that nautical or statute miles? Up to including 10 miles or 10 miles? ; )

ptolbert · 01-01-2002, 12:15 PM

not sure, i'll look it up, probably nm.

Steve · 01-02-2002, 11:40 AM

It's nautical miles and Patrick is correct on the size. The sectionals show the prohibited area's "inert" size, it is expanded by NOTAM when the Man's in town. Also, it's more likely the F15's intercepted agressively because they could not reach the piolt by voice. Not that I would know... just a guess.

Steve

12-30-2001, 08:56 PM	#1
ptolbert Insane Collector Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Waco/Woodway, Tx Age: 22 Posts: 1,205	American Eagle flight intercepted by F-15s Hey guys I was one of the DFW passengers onboard flight 3904 Flight 3904 intercepted F-15 fighters shortly after take-off from waco regional airport (KACT). The aircraft went too far west after take off. 2 fighters intercepted the Saab 340B aircraft. The pilot made a sharp bank to avoid collision. __________________ Ptolbert Long Live N615DL!!!!! ------------------------------ One World United together fighting poverty, social injustice, and foreign Domination of Industries, and just plain dumb people.

12-30-2001, 11:50 PM	#2
Sentinel Chicken Go-Getters Go Ozark Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: DFW/THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS Posts: 4,167	How far west was the pilot planning to go? Waco Regional is 13 nautical miles to the east of the edge of prohibited airspace P-49 (the President's ranch- the prohibited area is approx 6 nm diameter). Unless perhaps you were taking off southbound over Lake Waco and turning to the west..... __________________ *Piss on noise abatement!*

12-31-2001, 01:19 AM	#3
Scott Insane Collector Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Escondido, Ca. USA Age: 50 Posts: 2,763	Sharp bank? That might be interpreted as a potentially hostile act. Proper response is to illuminate all outside lights, waggle wings gently, and lower landing gear when approaching airport. The crew should have also been monitoring atc freq 121.5 for intercept data. Patrick, are you pulling our legs???? __________________ Fly the Friendly Skies of United uniTED takes wing Feb 12, 2004

12-31-2001, 08:58 PM	#4
ptolbert Insane Collector Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Waco/Woodway, Tx Age: 22 Posts: 1,205	The bush no fly zone is 10 miles in diamiter. We took off and headed west, the pilot preformed the anticollision procedures as the fighter pilots set up the intercept wrong. __________________ Ptolbert Long Live N615DL!!!!! ------------------------------ One World United together fighting poverty, social injustice, and foreign Domination of Industries, and just plain dumb people.

12-31-2001, 10:29 PM	#5
Sentinel Chicken Go-Getters Go Ozark Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: DFW/THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS Posts: 4,167	No, it's only 6 nautical miles in diameter, I'm looking at the San Antonio sectional as we speak. I'm guessing you took off from Rwy 19 and turned to the west with intent to turn north if you're headed to DFW, right? You got lots of room between P-49 and ACT from what I can see on the sectional. __________________ *Piss on noise abatement!*

01-01-2002, 12:10 AM	#6
ptolbert Insane Collector Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Waco/Woodway, Tx Age: 22 Posts: 1,205	chicken- I've got the skinny right from the FAA and Secret Service its 10 miles when the Shrub is in town and 6 other times. __________________ Ptolbert Long Live N615DL!!!!! ------------------------------ One World United together fighting poverty, social injustice, and foreign Domination of Industries, and just plain dumb people.

01-01-2002, 07:50 AM	#7
b737gearboy Senior Collector Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: KMHT Age: 40 Posts: 248	Is that nautical or statute miles? Up to including 10 miles or 10 miles? ; ) __________________ GO BUCKEYES!!!! NATIONAL CHAMPS!! O----H----I----O

01-01-2002, 12:15 PM	#8
ptolbert Insane Collector Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Waco/Woodway, Tx Age: 22 Posts: 1,205	not sure, i'll look it up, probably nm. __________________ Ptolbert Long Live N615DL!!!!! ------------------------------ One World United together fighting poverty, social injustice, and foreign Domination of Industries, and just plain dumb people.

01-02-2002, 11:40 AM	#9
Steve Master Collector Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 835	It's nautical miles and Patrick is correct on the size. The sectionals show the prohibited area's "inert" size, it is expanded by NOTAM when the Man's in town. Also, it's more likely the F15's intercepted agressively because they could not reach the piolt by voice. Not that I would know... just a guess. Steve

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